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on this episode of Ghost Hunters.

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Sherry gets an education in the supernatural

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in an old college apartment house.

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They saw a lady in white tapping on the window

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saying, help me.

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Oh my God.

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And Taps investigates an historic end with a dark past.

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There was a small girl, and she had died in this room.

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It's close to me.

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Something's close to me.

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A customer said, you have too many spirits,

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and out the door she walked.

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Frank.

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You all right?

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You OK?

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Something just went right through me.

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And then Frank finally comes to terms with what happened

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to him at the armory.

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I felt like I was getting singled out.

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Of course I felt like I was being attacked.

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I think you need to understand what happened that day,

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so you're not sitting there wondering for the rest of your life.

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So, Brian, what do you got this week?

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We have a case in actually two cases in Philly, Philadelphia,

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Pennsylvania.

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There's somebody called me.

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His name is Mike Fortuna.

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He's having a problem renting out the fourth floor of his apartment

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building.

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It's actually mostly for college students that are staying in the area.

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So he cannot rent it out?

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He hasn't tried to rent it out.

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He's tried to, I guess, that people have stayed there for a little while

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and took off and stuff.

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He lived up there, and he moved down to one of the other floors.

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We got that case, and then the Topton house.

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That's the restaurant?

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Yes, the restaurant with the residents on top.

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Jerry and Francis, they own the place.

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And Jerry says that his wife, Francis, has seen an apparition.

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Now, it's not one of these I see in an orb in a picture.

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No, they said they saw an apparition, like a full body.

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So some people live in this place?

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Is this the residence?

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Or is this the restaurant?

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This was the residence and the restaurant.

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You see the same apparition.

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It seems like they walked up and down the stairs.

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Are we going to have access to both?

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The restaurant and the residents?

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Yes, we're going to have access to both.

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Is there a particular place where this stuff happens?

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The bar and the dining room seem to have the most activity.

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All right, so we've got a guy's house who can't rent,

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and we've got a restaurant slash residence.

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That's crazy.

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Well, it's going to be a long weekend.

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It's going to be fun though.

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It's going to be a fun weekend.

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We're out.

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Thanks, guys.

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Wow.

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This is an interesting neighborhood, huh?

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Definitely not what I expected.

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I think I figured out why you can't rent the place.

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Hi, Mike.

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Hi.

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I'm attached to your help.

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Hi, how are you doing?

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Hi, I'm Grant.

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This is Jason.

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Can you come in?

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Yeah, sure.

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It's good to see you.

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The player's dead.

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There you go.

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Come in here.

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This is Tony.

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Hey, Tony.

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Hey, Jason.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Grant, how are you doing?

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Nice to meet you.

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Yeah, nice to meet you too.

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So what you got going on here?

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A couple of guys said they saw some stuff.

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What kind of stuff?

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They thought they heard a tapping on the window,

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and they looked out the window and they saw like a lady

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in white tapping on the window saying, help me.

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The window goes out onto the roof, so.

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Have you ever experienced anything yourself?

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I've been trying to.

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There you go.

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Investigate.

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You?

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Yeah, actually I have.

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I used to live in the room right up on the stairs.

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One night I was in there looking for a pair of scissors,

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and I said to myself, crap, there's no scissors in here.

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And I heard a male voice behind me say, no, there isn't.

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I turn around, there was nobody there.

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Now who's the guy who also heard the singing?

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He was my roommate.

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He was up on the third floor listening to music.

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There was a Marvin Gaye song or something like that.

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Nice.

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And he hears a female voice singing along with it

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from the fourth floor.

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He stops, goes upstairs, there's no one in the attic.

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As soon as the song stopped, the voice stopped.

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And pretty much you're getting a lot of voice type stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And maybe a couple things out of the corner of your eye, right?

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Right.

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All right, guys, this is where they were when they heard the singing.

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And also right where you're climbing out of, they heard a rapping.

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And they heard rap, rap, rap, help me, help me.

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And they looked and they saw a figure of a woman bowed by the window.

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Watch out, watch out, watch out.

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This place sucks.

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There was only one occurrence that wasn't centered around sound.

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Everything has been an auditory phenomenon.

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Honestly, to me, the answer is too simple.

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They saw a woman outside here.

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I mean, that woman could have come from the block down on the roof.

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And honestly, this, she was coming knocking and saying help me.

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Was she playing his day a woman?

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Like they thought that there was actually a woman that needed help?

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Or are we talking something that was a ghostly woman, you know?

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A semi-blue or transparent or something, you know?

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For a regular paranormal investigator, this is going to be like a police.

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I think Andy and I have got three cores of a figure not already.

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Just have to have adequate proof.

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I mean, this is totally party central out here.

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You know, it's just flipping chairs.

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Cheers, it's all beer bottles out here.

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Get yourself a sleeping bag right there.

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Spray paint. Look at this.

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Pictures. That's a toilet flange.

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Come on. You can see the hallway down there.

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Is this our hallway? Or is this how snakes do it?

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Uh, I don't think this is us.

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Wow, Jason, help me.

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Amber, I've known how to set up this equipment long before you ever did.

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You're thinking that?

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Who taught you how to set it up? Me and Grant.

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So I've known how to set up the equipment.

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How long before?

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There you have them.

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Guys, guys, guys.

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Andy and I are going to focus on finding the answers we need to prove some of this stuff.

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I'm going to go and see if we can check that upstairs.

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It's a good call.

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That's it.

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Plus, if we can find out what kind of people are living in it, yeah, this one here.

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We're looking for a way to explain away the paranormal activity by natural science or just normal activity.

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The girls up there, she smokes.

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So she sometimes goes out of the roof, just walks around.

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How old would you say she is?

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Uh, 24, 25.

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Okay, mid-20s.

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What color are you?

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Short black hair.

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We've got a description.

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Let's interview the guys that saw her on the thing.

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And dude, I'm telling you, if they describe what we just were told by those girls' housemates.

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That's it.

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That's it.

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All right.

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This is a room that supposedly has some phenomenon in it.

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Supposedly there's a voice coming from over there.

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So let's set up our IR camera and see what we capture.

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The other side of taps that's really important is the whole education side of it.

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The fact that we're out there looking to train good investigators.

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We're out there to set a standard.

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There's a lot of things that can give off an electromagnetic field.

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Micro-wage, refrigerators.

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You gotta think in a household that you've got radio equipment that can give off electromagnetic.

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There's DCRs, TVs.

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There's so much that can give it off.

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Check that out.

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This is the fire detector control unit.

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Rules out this hallway.

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We can't do it.

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All right.

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Let's head down in the basement.

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I'm going to show you another thing that we always look for when we do an investigation in old power.

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Even when we're in an old house where you might think there isn't a lot of new electronics.

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I see it right here.

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Grant, what's that?

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This, my friend, is a Romax cable.

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It's very low shielded.

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So the electromagnetic stuff comes right through it.

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Even if it's off, it's emitting.

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It's so tough to work around that whenever we see it, we just put the AMFs away.

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And there you go.

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Oh my God.

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What's that giving off?

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46.3.

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And if you look right here, we've got our Romax going.

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Wow.

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Right back into that.

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All right.

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Yep.

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That's exactly what you're talking about.

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So that is why we can't use EMF detectors in this house.

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Sherry's doing good tonight.

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She's really just picking up the information we're giving her.

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She's absorbing it well better than I anticipated.

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I'm going to run downstairs.

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It sounds like down there.

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It sounds like someone is like walking in a rock.

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That's awesome.

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All right.

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Let me try singing.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Dude, I can hear you.

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That's good.

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All right.

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I'm coming in.

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It sounded like the way that the acoustics were set up in the house.

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Everything sounded like it was coming from below.

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Right from below.

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Someone could obviously be out on that rooftop just doing whatever and they just don't know

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or expect anyone to be out there.

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Our last thing that we need to check out is of course the figure outside the window.

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We have a conference call lined up with the gentleman that actually saw the figure outside

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the window to see if it's legit or not.

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John, how are you doing?

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My name is Grant.

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All right.

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We've got you on speakerphone.

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We just want to ask you if you could relate your version of what happened that night.

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Okay.

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We went upstairs and we were at it.

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We were sitting there.

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We were like, doh, doh, doh.

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We were like, hey, help me.

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They knocked against the help.

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They finally put on the door.

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Just put the heck out of there.

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I've seen it in the girls' space.

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She's deadly out of blood here.

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She's definitely like a person.

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All right, John.

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That's perfect.

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Thank you so much.

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I think we got the answers we needed.

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Absolutely.

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The only thing that didn't match was the hair color.

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Which I think we need to go and check out.

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Awesome.

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Nice.

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I think it's this one.

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Yeah, it's this one right here.

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All right, so you actually have seen lawn women.

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Well, yeah, they're real ones.

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Yeah, not ghosts.

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Not ghosts.

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All right.

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They're loud and obnoxious.

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Loud and obnoxious?

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Loud and obnoxious.

267
00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:33,940
So they're not ghosts.

268
00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:34,940
Yeah, they're not ghosts.

269
00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:36,940
Yeah, with their guy friends.

270
00:11:36,940 --> 00:11:37,940
All right.

271
00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:38,940
And you know what?

272
00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:39,940
That's perfect.

273
00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:41,940
That's exactly what we needed to hear.

274
00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:46,940
We feel we've been able to disprove everything that these guys have seen and heard.

275
00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,940
What we need to hear thinks this place is haunted.

276
00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:52,940
But we got to wait for Brian and Steve to finish their EVP sweep upstairs.

277
00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:54,940
And then we may call it an early night.

278
00:11:54,940 --> 00:11:56,940
Dude, check this out.

279
00:11:56,940 --> 00:11:57,940
What?

280
00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:59,940
Are we king of taps?

281
00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:01,940
Is that a king hat?

282
00:12:01,940 --> 00:12:03,940
Is that a damn poobah hat?

283
00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:04,940
Not a king.

284
00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:05,940
All right.

285
00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:09,940
Is there anybody in this upstairs apartment with us tonight?

286
00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:14,940
Yeah, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously with that hat.

287
00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:16,940
I'll take it off.

288
00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:19,940
Is this our human spirits or are we thinking the same thing?

289
00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:20,940
Probably.

290
00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:21,940
That would be actually even better.

291
00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:25,940
Is there anybody in this apartment upstairs?

292
00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:32,940
Are you the one that knocked on the window and said help me?

293
00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:38,940
Are you angry that somebody's trying to live in this room?

294
00:12:38,940 --> 00:12:40,940
See how cold it is in that vent.

295
00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:41,940
Dude.

296
00:12:41,940 --> 00:12:43,940
Dude, what the hell is this?

297
00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:48,940
What is that?

298
00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:50,940
There's something right here.

299
00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:51,940
What are you doing?

300
00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:52,940
Hold on.

301
00:12:56,940 --> 00:12:57,940
I didn't expect that noise.

302
00:12:57,940 --> 00:12:58,940
What is that?

303
00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:01,940
It's a fucked up something.

304
00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:03,940
It's a full-miss finger print.

305
00:13:07,940 --> 00:13:08,940
Hey guys.

306
00:13:09,940 --> 00:13:10,940
What's that?

307
00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:11,940
Put my finger.

308
00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:12,940
It's not your finger.

309
00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:13,940
I don't want to touch that.

310
00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:14,940
Go ahead.

311
00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:16,940
I thought it was this.

312
00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:18,940
You want to bolt it over?

313
00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:19,940
It's like cutting through the chase.

314
00:13:19,940 --> 00:13:20,940
It's a part.

315
00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:21,940
Hey.

316
00:13:21,940 --> 00:13:22,940
Here.

317
00:13:22,940 --> 00:13:24,940
You want to bolt it over those rooms?

318
00:13:25,940 --> 00:13:26,940
And uh...

319
00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:27,940
You stop it.

320
00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:30,940
God, it's like giving a kid a toy.

321
00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:31,940
No go for it.

322
00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:34,940
That would be it, man.

323
00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:35,940
We went to both rooms.

324
00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:36,940
Nothing.

325
00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:37,940
So this whole place is...

326
00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:38,940
Well there's nothing faulting about it.

327
00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:40,940
We pretty much disproved everything

328
00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:42,940
acoustically and stuff with the attic right away.

329
00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:44,940
I just want to get the OK from you

330
00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:46,940
to start wrapping things up and get out of here.

331
00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:47,940
Absolutely.

332
00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:48,940
Alright.

333
00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:49,940
Alright brother, let's do it.

334
00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:50,940
Alright, let's do it.

335
00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:51,940
What?

336
00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:00,940
Tough.

337
00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:01,940
Tough.

338
00:14:01,940 --> 00:14:02,940
It's up.

339
00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:08,940
Hey guys.

340
00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:09,940
We appreciate you having us tonight.

341
00:14:09,940 --> 00:14:10,940
Oh thanks for coming.

342
00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:12,940
You know, we got a lot of evidence to go over

343
00:14:12,940 --> 00:14:14,940
and see if we can find anything.

344
00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:15,940
Can we see the results?

345
00:14:15,940 --> 00:14:16,940
Yeah, we'll get in touch.

346
00:14:16,940 --> 00:14:17,940
You soon.

347
00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:18,940
Alright.

348
00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:19,940
Take it easy.

349
00:14:28,940 --> 00:14:31,940
Oh, that's a long way right down the main street over here

350
00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:33,940
and uh, I just hope it's worth it.

351
00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:34,940
There's another place across the street,

352
00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:35,940
Pat's King of Stakes,

353
00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:37,940
but let's talk to a pretty cute girl in line.

354
00:14:37,940 --> 00:14:39,940
I think we're in the right line.

355
00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:40,940
I wouldn't mind waiting in line

356
00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:42,940
as the fact that it's in the middle of the road.

357
00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:44,940
I'm nervous.

358
00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:46,940
I'm just going to cut up with you guys, okay?

359
00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:47,940
Okay.

360
00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:48,940
What's the cue?

361
00:14:48,940 --> 00:14:49,940
Ghost hunters?

362
00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:50,940
Like we look for ghosts?

363
00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:51,940
Wow.

364
00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:54,940
Do you want me to help you field some questions over here?

365
00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:56,940
No, because I'm hitting on girls, so...

366
00:14:56,940 --> 00:14:58,940
back off my game.

367
00:14:58,940 --> 00:14:59,940
I just got back in a while.

368
00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:00,940
I just caught up to my guys.

369
00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:01,940
You see this?

370
00:15:01,940 --> 00:15:03,940
What's going on is I'm spitting game

371
00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:04,940
and this guy comes up

372
00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:07,940
and he need help over here with some questions.

373
00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,940
I got an American whip.

374
00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:11,940
I got two provolones with.

375
00:15:11,940 --> 00:15:13,940
Mmm.

376
00:15:13,940 --> 00:15:15,940
That's the best type of a...

377
00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:17,940
That's the best type of a...

378
00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:31,940
Hey guys.

379
00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:32,940
Hey, what's going on?

380
00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:33,940
It's good to see you again.

381
00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:34,940
Yeah, it's good to see you too.

382
00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:36,940
We knew the Fortuna case was pretty simple.

383
00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:38,940
I mean, there was absolutely no audio

384
00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:40,940
or visual evidence at all,

385
00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:43,940
so Jay and I decided that we were going to do the reveal right away.

386
00:15:43,940 --> 00:15:46,940
I just want to ask you, I mean, you had your own experience in here.

387
00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:48,940
Can you tell us what you went through again?

388
00:15:48,940 --> 00:15:49,940
Sure.

389
00:15:49,940 --> 00:15:51,940
I was in my bedroom on the second floor,

390
00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:52,940
looking for a pair of scissors.

391
00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:54,940
After I said, you know, scissors aren't here,

392
00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:56,940
I heard a voice saying, no, there isn't.

393
00:15:56,940 --> 00:15:58,940
The reply that you got was pretty ambiguous.

394
00:15:58,940 --> 00:16:00,940
It could have been to any question.

395
00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:02,940
So it's not like it said, yes, the scissors are not here.

396
00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:04,940
Tony, you know you're right.

397
00:16:04,940 --> 00:16:06,940
That part of the house sticks out from the rest.

398
00:16:06,940 --> 00:16:08,940
There's actually alleys on both sides.

399
00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:10,940
So we're on the first floor,

400
00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:12,940
you can definitely hear what's coming from.

401
00:16:12,940 --> 00:16:14,940
There's a guy there on the ground.

402
00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:17,940
We're on the second floor, couldn't tell where it was coming from.

403
00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:20,940
Another investigator myself actually fooled around up here,

404
00:16:20,940 --> 00:16:21,940
singing...

405
00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:22,940
Yankee Doodle.

406
00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:24,940
Yes, if you must know.

407
00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:27,940
And it sounded like it was coming from downstairs.

408
00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:29,940
Because it sticks up out of the rest of the house,

409
00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:31,940
the acoustics will screw you up.

410
00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:33,940
Well, how do you explain the experience my friends had

411
00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:36,940
about seeing the woman through the window on the roof?

412
00:16:36,940 --> 00:16:38,940
That one took a little bit of research.

413
00:16:38,940 --> 00:16:40,940
The first thing that came into my mind was that

414
00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:41,940
they didn't see a ghost at all,

415
00:16:41,940 --> 00:16:44,940
that there was actually a woman out on the roof.

416
00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:46,940
You know, after speaking to your friends,

417
00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:48,940
they stated that they saw a girl with blonde hair.

418
00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:50,940
We ended up going over to your neighbors.

419
00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:53,940
When we met the lady, she actually had black hair.

420
00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:55,940
So we got to speaking with her,

421
00:16:55,940 --> 00:16:58,940
and she's had quite a few blonde-haired friends over

422
00:16:58,940 --> 00:17:01,940
who come out on the roof to sneak in cigarettes.

423
00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:03,940
And sometimes they get latched out.

424
00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:05,940
So they can't get back in.

425
00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:07,940
Yes, I mean, it's that simple, I think.

426
00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:09,940
Fortunately, she found her way down.

427
00:17:09,940 --> 00:17:12,940
But one thing that I want to advise you guys,

428
00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:14,940
and maybe to spread along, is that most likely

429
00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:16,940
there was a woman that actually needed help up here.

430
00:17:16,940 --> 00:17:19,940
And because they were nervous and scared from the stories

431
00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:22,940
that were in their head, they left her up there.

432
00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:24,940
So our news to you is that it's good news,

433
00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:27,940
that the place, we do not feel the place is haunted in any way.

434
00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:29,940
So take what we've given you, put it to the test,

435
00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:31,940
and see what you find.

436
00:17:31,940 --> 00:17:32,940
Absolutely.

437
00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:34,940
Yeah, I think you guys did a real good job

438
00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:35,940
with everything straightforward.

439
00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:36,940
Right.

440
00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:37,940
Well, we appreciate you having us out.

441
00:17:37,940 --> 00:17:38,940
Thanks for coming.

442
00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:39,940
You know what I mean?

443
00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:41,940
If you ever need anything, you know how to get in touch with us.

444
00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:42,940
We just do.

445
00:17:42,940 --> 00:17:44,940
Don't sit there in panic, okay?

446
00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:45,940
Thanks, guys.

447
00:17:48,940 --> 00:17:49,940
Well, that went well, man.

448
00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:50,940
Yeah, it did.

449
00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:51,940
They seemed very relieved.

450
00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:53,940
All right, it's getting late.

451
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:54,940
Let's go crash.

452
00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:02,940
So, off to the Topton House.

453
00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:05,940
Yes, we're going to be in Topton's house.

454
00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:07,940
If I don't get home soon, we'll be in the door, guys.

455
00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:08,940
Yeah, right.

456
00:18:08,940 --> 00:18:10,940
We're going to be meeting Rick over there.

457
00:18:10,940 --> 00:18:11,940
It's part of TAPS.

458
00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:13,940
He's written a couple good articles for the website.

459
00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:14,940
He's like us.

460
00:18:14,940 --> 00:18:15,940
He tries to disprove.

461
00:18:15,940 --> 00:18:18,940
And it'd be good to see how he works out today.

462
00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:21,940
Oh, my gosh.

463
00:18:21,940 --> 00:18:23,940
There's a lot of land out here.

464
00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:25,940
This is beautiful, though.

465
00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:29,940
I wouldn't want to live here, but it's beautiful.

466
00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:31,940
Let's see if we can find Rick.

467
00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:35,940
Let's go, Rick, man.

468
00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:36,940
Good to see you.

469
00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:38,940
Rick has investigated the Topton House previously,

470
00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:40,940
and he's the one who proposed that TAPS come down here

471
00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:41,940
and do an investigation.

472
00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:42,940
Hi, Francine.

473
00:18:42,940 --> 00:18:45,940
Let me introduce you a couple numbers of TAPS.

474
00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:46,940
This is Jason.

475
00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:47,940
Hello.

476
00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:48,940
And this is Grant.

477
00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:49,940
Hi, welcome to the Topton House.

478
00:18:49,940 --> 00:18:50,940
Thank you.

479
00:18:50,940 --> 00:18:51,940
So could you give us a tour of the place?

480
00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:52,940
Oh, sure.

481
00:18:52,940 --> 00:18:53,940
Come on in.

482
00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:54,940
No problem.

483
00:18:54,940 --> 00:18:55,940
Awesome.

484
00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:56,940
All right.

485
00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:57,940
After you, Rick.

486
00:18:57,940 --> 00:18:59,940
This is what is our non-smoking dining room area,

487
00:18:59,940 --> 00:19:00,940
where people sit.

488
00:19:00,940 --> 00:19:03,940
This is also the room that is a lot of activity

489
00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:05,940
with my little girl spirit that I have.

490
00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:10,940
There was a small girl, and she had died in this room.

491
00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:13,940
So this is the room where she normally hangs out.

492
00:19:13,940 --> 00:19:16,940
But she likes to trip people in the middle of my floor.

493
00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:19,940
And it's like all of a sudden, you trip and you look down,

494
00:19:19,940 --> 00:19:21,940
and there's nothing there.

495
00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:25,940
She also plays in the corner of the bar room.

496
00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:27,940
We put a soda on the bar.

497
00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:29,940
We think the little girl wasn't as high as the bar,

498
00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:30,940
so she couldn't reach it.

499
00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:33,940
So we put it on a table, and that drink actually moved along.

500
00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:34,940
Move a little.

501
00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:35,940
This is our bar area.

502
00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:39,940
Now, Rick and I have seen the same thing I saw

503
00:19:39,940 --> 00:19:41,940
through the window glass.

504
00:19:41,940 --> 00:19:45,940
A female in back of me in a light blue dress with a bun.

505
00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:48,940
So I quick turned around, and when I turned around,

506
00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:49,940
she was gone.

507
00:19:49,940 --> 00:19:51,940
Rick was here a week or so later,

508
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:52,940
and Rick, tell them what you saw.

509
00:19:52,940 --> 00:19:54,940
Right as I looked at that doorway,

510
00:19:54,940 --> 00:19:58,940
a woman in a Robin's Egg blue dress with a bustle in the back

511
00:19:58,940 --> 00:20:01,940
just went walking right across that doorway.

512
00:20:01,940 --> 00:20:03,940
There's no one else in the building at the time.

513
00:20:03,940 --> 00:20:05,940
The restaurant is just closed.

514
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:09,940
My chef, who works behind this line,

515
00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:13,940
she's had one of these lift up off the line and go sailing.

516
00:20:13,940 --> 00:20:15,940
There's activity in my cellar.

517
00:20:15,940 --> 00:20:17,940
My oldest daughter has smelled roses,

518
00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:19,940
like roses were thrown in the face.

519
00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:22,940
She's heard murmuring, and to this day,

520
00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:24,940
she will go down the cellar by herself.

521
00:20:25,940 --> 00:20:27,940
What's the general feeling of the place according to you?

522
00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:28,940
They're friendly.

523
00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:30,940
I don't want them to go away.

524
00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:32,940
They're a part of the history here.

525
00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:33,940
That's good.

526
00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:34,940
That is the ambience of this restaurant.

527
00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:37,940
How many spirits do you guys believe are here?

528
00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:39,940
I have been told by a customer,

529
00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:40,940
you have too many spirits.

530
00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:42,940
I feel 12, and I'm leaving.

531
00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:43,940
And out the door, she walks.

532
00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:45,940
My middle daughter, Andrea,

533
00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:47,940
she is sort of like a medium.

534
00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:48,940
She can feel them.

535
00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:49,940
She doesn't see them.

536
00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:50,940
She's really sensitive.

537
00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:51,940
Yes, very sensitive.

538
00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:52,940
She knows they're here.

539
00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:04,940
Alright guys.

540
00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:05,940
Top of salt.

541
00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:07,940
This place is pretty interesting.

542
00:21:07,940 --> 00:21:10,940
This is all pretty much on the first floor.

543
00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:13,940
Amy, I know you want to get more into the investigation.

544
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:15,940
I'd like for you to spend some time talking to Andrea.

545
00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:17,940
It's Francine's middle child.

546
00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:20,940
She seems to be a little bit sensitive,

547
00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:23,940
so maybe you can talk to her a little bit about that.

548
00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:25,940
We decided to bring Amy on this case,

549
00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:26,940
because she's a Reiki master,

550
00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:28,940
and that means she can sense energy.

551
00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:30,940
So we're going to pair her up with Andrea,

552
00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:32,940
who is supposedly sensitive to spiritual energy,

553
00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:35,940
and hopefully Amy can shed some light on that situation.

554
00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:38,940
We got a whole lot of stuff that you can work on, Andy.

555
00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:40,940
Yeah, you and I got stuff to go on right away.

556
00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:41,940
Alright.

557
00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:44,940
We're going to be able to cover this thing top to bottom.

558
00:21:44,940 --> 00:21:47,940
You guys can even double up on some cameras if you want,

559
00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:50,940
and they do not in any way want these things out of here.

560
00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:52,940
They enjoy them, they have a good time with it.

561
00:21:52,940 --> 00:21:54,940
So we're just here to study.

562
00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:55,940
Alright?

563
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:56,940
Let's do it.

564
00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:04,940
Is that the case?

565
00:22:04,940 --> 00:22:05,940
Oh, no, not at all.

566
00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:07,940
I don't really know what's going on between Steve and Sherry.

567
00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:09,940
It seems like they both like each other.

568
00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:11,940
I just hope nothing happens where they throw up all the investigations,

569
00:22:11,940 --> 00:22:14,940
so hopefully everything will be nice and smooth.

570
00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:15,940
Let's go, baby.

571
00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:16,940
You set all this up.

572
00:22:16,940 --> 00:22:18,940
Just keep forgetting power.

573
00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:19,940
Yeah.

574
00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:20,940
Red dots are on.

575
00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:21,940
This camera's up and running.

576
00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:22,940
Can you move this over this way?

577
00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:23,940
Yeah.

578
00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:25,940
Hold on, Steve.

579
00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:26,940
They're screwing it all up.

580
00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:28,940
What are you doing, man?

581
00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:30,940
Turn it, tilt it up just slightly.

582
00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:32,940
Tilt it, tilt it, not moving.

583
00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:33,940
Stop moving it.

584
00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:34,940
Okay.

585
00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:36,940
She's such a freaking goofball.

586
00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,940
Let's check out the basement.

587
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:39,940
Let's do it.

588
00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:42,940
So we're going to head down to the basement and try and figure out some explanation

589
00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:45,940
for the smell of roses that people have been experiencing.

590
00:22:45,940 --> 00:22:48,940
Guys, look out for the pipes, too, because you get asbestos on.

591
00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:49,940
Yeah.

592
00:22:49,940 --> 00:22:50,940
Check that out right.

593
00:22:50,940 --> 00:22:51,940
And that, is that leaves?

594
00:22:51,940 --> 00:22:53,940
That could carry sound, that could carry scent.

595
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:56,940
That could bring all sorts, and that goes right out to the garden.

596
00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:58,940
Alright, so we got a big hole over here.

597
00:22:58,940 --> 00:22:59,940
Right.

598
00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:00,940
Why don't I do this?

599
00:23:00,940 --> 00:23:01,940
I've got some cologne with me.

600
00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:02,940
I can spray out there and see if it blasts in.

601
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,940
Ah, good call.

602
00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:04,940
Real good call.

603
00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:07,940
There are things called orbs.

604
00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:08,940
Okay.

605
00:23:08,940 --> 00:23:15,940
What you're going to look for is anomalies, vapors, and free-floating apparitions, specters.

606
00:23:15,940 --> 00:23:16,940
Hmm.

607
00:23:16,940 --> 00:23:18,940
Talk to you?

608
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:19,940
A little.

609
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,940
Yes, privately.

610
00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:24,940
You've experienced quite a bit down here in the basement.

611
00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:25,940
I have.

612
00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:30,940
Friday nights when I do beer runs for the bartender, I come down like around here.

613
00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:36,940
When I get to right about here, I start feeling that something maybe...

614
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:40,940
a spirit in here is watching me come down the stairs.

615
00:23:40,940 --> 00:23:42,940
I feel the chills.

616
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:48,940
I feel like there's something with me, but when I go upstairs, it's the way I was before I came downstairs.

617
00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:51,940
I know you and Sherry are getting kind of close.

618
00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:54,940
And I know she's a member of the tax, and that could be a little problem.

619
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:57,940
She wanted to let you know to watch out, man, because Jay doesn't like that.

620
00:23:57,940 --> 00:24:04,940
If Jay has a problem with that, and Sherry and I got to that point, then...

621
00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,940
she just wouldn't be a member tax anymore.

622
00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:11,940
Alright.

623
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:13,940
I just want to make Sherry a new boy, you know?

624
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:15,940
I just want her to keep it straight, you know what I mean?

625
00:24:15,940 --> 00:24:18,940
Jennifer's the daughter who's experienced the smell of roses in the basement.

626
00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:23,940
So we're actually going to go to the basement and try to duplicate that with her.

627
00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:28,940
Alright, Andy, I just sprayed a couple of times and then fanned it in.

628
00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:32,940
We got it. We're not even all the way down the stairs, and we can get it.

629
00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:34,940
I don't smell it standing here yet.

630
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:35,940
Alright, Grant, do me a favor.

631
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:37,940
Can I go to the bulkhead?

632
00:24:37,940 --> 00:24:39,940
And give it a couple spritzes out in front of the bulkhead.

633
00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:41,940
Alright, we'll do.

634
00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:45,940
Alright, did a few at the bottom and some on the right-hand side.

635
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:46,940
Yeah, it's strong.

636
00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:47,940
It's strong.

637
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,940
I can smell it now.

638
00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:52,940
Yeah, it's starting to waft over.

639
00:24:55,940 --> 00:24:59,940
It's been reported that the little girl spirit has moved a glass of soda on the table,

640
00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:01,940
so we're going to try and recreate that.

641
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:06,940
What we need to do is just get a bottle of coke, put it on a table in there where a kid could reach it,

642
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:09,940
and then just leave it there while you do your thing.

643
00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:10,940
Yeah, come do that.

644
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:11,940
Sweet.

645
00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:16,940
Okay, the camera's set up so that if the glass moves, we'll catch it on tape.

646
00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:19,940
So hopefully it moves. Let's put this on record.

647
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:21,940
Alright.

648
00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:22,940
Let's go.

649
00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:28,940
We've got Brian, Steve, and Amy downstairs with Andrea, who is somewhat sensitive.

650
00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:33,940
Hopefully, you kind of use her like a bloodhound to draw us to where it might be some activity.

651
00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:35,940
When I come down here, it's a whole different feeling.

652
00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:38,940
I feel the chills. I feel like I know something's down here.

653
00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:47,940
Are you feeling anything right now?

654
00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:48,940
No, I'm fine.

655
00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:54,940
If she says she's feeling something, we're going to fire off the most precious.

656
00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:55,940
Okay.

657
00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:57,940
I'm sure they know we're down here.

658
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:03,940
I think it's just a matter of them wanting to come out and show them so.

659
00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:11,940
Just let us know what you're feeling.

660
00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,940
A lot of the spirits are trying to hide right now.

661
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:20,940
I feel tingled.

662
00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:21,940
Hey, Steve.

663
00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:26,940
She feels something right back here.

664
00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:31,940
How does it feel like? The same? The tingle in the arms?

665
00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:35,940
Yeah, but like really strong. It's close to me.

666
00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:37,940
There's something close to me.

667
00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:39,940
It's really strong in this room.

668
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:46,940
I feel as strong as this in here.

669
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:51,940
Something's close to me. Not right now. Now I don't feel it.

670
00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:54,940
It's almost like we come in and it's like strong.

671
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:56,940
Nose right here and then it goes.

672
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:57,940
It's hiding for us?

673
00:26:57,940 --> 00:26:58,940
I think it's hiding.

674
00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:02,940
I feel it a lot around the stuff.

675
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:06,940
It's like they're trying not to see.

676
00:27:06,940 --> 00:27:09,940
Amy said that it doesn't want to be captured.

677
00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:11,940
We're going to capture it.

678
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:13,940
We're going to break a couple of rules.

679
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:16,940
What we're going to do is we're going to split up.

680
00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:19,940
All right, good play. Let's find this little ghosty.

681
00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:22,940
I'm breaking the rules and having the investigators separate because it seems safe to me.

682
00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:26,940
The rooms are small so I know we're not really alone and we're within the air shot of each other.

683
00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:31,940
Give us a sign please. An audible sign of your presence.

684
00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:38,940
Are you feeling anything?

685
00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:42,940
Not too much. Not now.

686
00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:45,940
If it's kind of sick of us all being down here, do you think maybe a shot upstairs somewhere?

687
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:47,940
Can they do that? Can they go upstairs?

688
00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:51,940
They don't want to be caught right now. They're going to zip to wherever they want to hide.

689
00:27:51,940 --> 00:28:00,940
When I come down by myself, it's almost like I'm coming downstairs and I know they're behind me because they were there.

690
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:04,940
That's where they were when I started coming downstairs but it seems they're always behind me.

691
00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:13,940
I have an idea. Let's break another rule. Let's let her come down alone with the EVP recorder.

692
00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:15,940
Well, let's try it.

693
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:21,940
Are you a happy spirit?

694
00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:24,940
If you're down here, why are you here?

695
00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:31,940
I hope that she's able to capture something because she was saying that it's not going to stick around when we're all down there.

696
00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:36,940
Hopefully during the playback we'll get some kind of voice or phenomenon.

697
00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:41,940
Are you afraid of somebody?

698
00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:45,940
Are you afraid of somebody?

699
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:50,940
Are you afraid of me?

700
00:28:53,940 --> 00:29:04,940
I would like to know what your statistics are or what your, the percentage of the places that you have investigated that you've been able to, as the one gentleman says, debunk.

701
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:07,940
We've been able to debunk probably about 80% of what we get.

702
00:29:07,940 --> 00:29:09,940
And do you feel good about that when you do that?

703
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:16,940
There are two aspects of what we get out of investigation. What we get out of it and what we can back.

704
00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:25,940
So while I may go downstairs by myself and have an crazy experience, and may see some ghosts come up and shake my hand, I can come up and say that but I can't prove it happened.

705
00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:31,940
So, I mean, I know in my heart that the place is haunted but I can't prove it to someone.

706
00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:34,940
So we're trying to find both aspects.

707
00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:42,940
Hopefully more stuff that we can use to prove. So that I can give you evidence and say, you know what? You can show anyone and say you can prove to them that this place is haunted.

708
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:46,940
I can only tell you what I have felt and what I've experienced.

709
00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:52,940
And we can only tell you what we found. We take those two atoms together and see what we come up with.

710
00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:57,940
So did you feel anything when you were down there? Did you get those same electric charge?

711
00:29:57,940 --> 00:30:00,940
I felt a little bit and I feel that it's down there.

712
00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:02,940
We appreciate you doing that.

713
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:04,940
Absolutely.

714
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:08,940
Amy and Andrea are going to be doing the Reiki out in the interview era.

715
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:12,940
I don't know a lot about it. I mean, do me a favor, explain to Grant what Reiki is.

716
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:15,940
It's a non-invasive form of healing through energy.

717
00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:21,940
Sort of like chi, correct? You're drawing energy from around you, trying to use it to assist that person.

718
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:23,940
Let's do it.

719
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:25,940
Come on.

720
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:27,940
Reiki is very, very gentle.

721
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:32,940
If you're uncomfortable at any time or you want me to stop or you need to adjust or something, just let me know.

722
00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:34,940
Okay. Absolutely.

723
00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:44,940
I'm a Reiki master and I'm doing Reiki on Andrea to see if she's sensitive to the Reiki energy that may translate into being sensitive to paranormal activity as well.

724
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,940
Reiki is a great energy.

725
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:51,940
You really do. You're very grounded. It's like not going anywhere nice and strong.

726
00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:56,940
After the session, I just, I felt lighter. I felt a lot calmer.

727
00:30:56,940 --> 00:31:00,940
Let's go into the ballroom and see if we can get anything in there.

728
00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,940
Can you move that glass of soda for us?

729
00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:07,940
We still have a long ride ahead of us to get back home.

730
00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:12,940
So why don't we start wrapping it up, packing the equipment up. Let's get that on there.

731
00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:15,940
All right. You want me to tell Brian where you're going?

732
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:16,940
Yeah. I'll tell him.

733
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:17,940
Let's do that. I'll let them know. You let them know.

734
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:18,940
Okay.

735
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:20,940
The investigation's all set. Let's wrap it up.

736
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:21,940
I'd say we can be done.

737
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:23,940
Yeah. There's not much talk to the investigators.

738
00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:25,940
We're going to do a little bit of research.

739
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:27,940
We're going to do a little bit of research.

740
00:31:27,940 --> 00:31:29,940
We're going to do a little bit of research.

741
00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:31,940
The investigation's all set. Let's wrap it up.

742
00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:32,940
I'd say we can be done.

743
00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:34,940
Yeah. There's not much talk to the investigators.

744
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:35,940
We're going to take one picture of the goal.

745
00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:39,940
If there's anything in this place that's in the basement, we can find it in our live, our hard lines.

746
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:47,940
You got that?

747
00:31:52,940 --> 00:31:53,940
Hey.

748
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:55,940
We appreciate you guys having us down.

749
00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:57,940
Thank you. Thank you very much for coming.

750
00:31:57,940 --> 00:31:59,940
We're going to go over the evidence over the next few days.

751
00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:00,940
We're going to wait to come back.

752
00:32:00,940 --> 00:32:01,940
Yeah.

753
00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:02,940
We'll talk to you real soon.

754
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:03,940
Thank you.

755
00:32:03,940 --> 00:32:04,940
All right. Thank you. Good night now.

756
00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:05,940
Thanks.

757
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:06,940
See you.

758
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:19,940
Hi, man. Let's go look at the Topton house now, man.

759
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,940
The stare at this pole for like three hours.

760
00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:27,940
I hate watching footage when nothing happens.

761
00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:29,940
Not even getting in a war.

762
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:31,940
Tray.

763
00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:33,940
No.

764
00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:35,940
Hey, what do you think of this?

765
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:36,940
Dude, dude, watch this.

766
00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:38,940
I don't know what this is, dude.

767
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:40,940
It's kind of like a weird shadow here.

768
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:43,940
It's a shadow on the wall.

769
00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,940
What is that?

770
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:49,940
Write it down and see what they think.

771
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:55,940
All right, guys.

772
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,940
This is the Topton house now.

773
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:59,940
I went down on the basement with Steve,

774
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:01,940
and I didn't catch even a piece of dust or anything

775
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:02,940
in any of these pictures.

776
00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:05,940
I mean, as you can see, this is a very clean basement.

777
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:07,940
I mean, it was very surprising.

778
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:08,940
Even in the hard lines,

779
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:10,940
I didn't catch anything on the hard lines down there.

780
00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:12,940
No dust, no nothing.

781
00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:14,940
We went through the hole upstairs.

782
00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:15,940
We got one little piece of evidence.

783
00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:17,940
It's not really a piece of evidence,

784
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:19,940
but I wanted to show it to you anyways.

785
00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:20,940
This right here.

786
00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:21,940
You gotta remember this.

787
00:33:21,940 --> 00:33:23,940
This is the place where we got the evidence.

788
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:26,940
You gotta remember that the IR is picking up

789
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:27,940
any light that's coming in.

790
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:28,940
Okay.

791
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:30,940
So, and then when the camera's trying to self-adjust,

792
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:32,940
it's kicking the image off to the side,

793
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:33,940
so that's not it.

794
00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:34,940
Wow. That's all me and Steve found.

795
00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:36,940
I think Francine's gonna be tough.

796
00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:38,940
Anyways, to reveal the evidence, too,

797
00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:40,940
because she's very spiritual,

798
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:42,940
and she's had a lot of sensitives in there

799
00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:43,940
that she hasn't even questioned.

800
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:46,940
She's been instant to believe and agree with.

801
00:33:46,940 --> 00:33:47,940
Well, the thing is this,

802
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:50,940
is that they told us quite a few stories there.

803
00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:52,940
Some of them were just flat out.

804
00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:55,940
We were able to see things that they didn't see.

805
00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:57,940
In other words, like a ventilation system

806
00:33:57,940 --> 00:33:58,940
and holes in the walls.

807
00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:00,940
Other ones we don't know about

808
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:02,940
because we haven't found evidence for or against it.

809
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:03,940
Definitely.

810
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:04,940
So, I think all we have to do is say,

811
00:34:04,940 --> 00:34:05,940
you know what?

812
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:07,940
You're taking every story that's told to you

813
00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:08,940
and believing it instantly

814
00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:10,940
instead of trying to research it yourself.

815
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:13,940
We have to teach her to be a little bit more skeptical

816
00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:15,940
of the stories that are told to her.

817
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:16,940
Oh, but it's gonna happen.

818
00:34:16,940 --> 00:34:18,940
Wow. That's the only thing we got.

819
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:19,940
That's it.

820
00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:21,940
So, all right. Good. Good job.

821
00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:23,940
Here we go.

822
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,940
Topton House has definitely got a reputation

823
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:30,940
in the area for being haunted.

824
00:34:30,940 --> 00:34:33,940
So, I think that's gonna be a delicate situation

825
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:34,940
with Francine.

826
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:37,940
That's gonna be a touchy, touchy thing.

827
00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:38,940
Some of it, you know,

828
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:40,940
it just needs to be laid out straight.

829
00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:41,940
We gotta tell her.

830
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:43,940
We're not going to give her false information.

831
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:46,940
You're probably the better one to talk mostly

832
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:47,940
when we're here,

833
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:48,940
not looking to make it out of me.

834
00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:49,940
Right.

835
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:52,940
All right, man. There it is.

836
00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:53,940
You ready?

837
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:54,940
Yeah, I'm ready.

838
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:56,940
No time like the present.

839
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:04,940
Hey, guys.

840
00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:05,940
Hi, hi.

841
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,940
One thing I want to bring up is that

842
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:08,940
while we do have a lot of equipment,

843
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,940
we do not neglect the stories that are told,

844
00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:12,940
but we've got to, for the sake of this field,

845
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:14,940
we've got to break it down.

846
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,940
And that's not discrediting what they've said

847
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:19,940
we're just saying, you know what,

848
00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:21,940
it could have been something else.

849
00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:22,940
Your daughter, Jennifer,

850
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:24,940
recounted to us an experience

851
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,940
about getting the smell of roses in her face.

852
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:29,940
We were able to recreate Jennifer's story

853
00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:31,940
almost to a tee.

854
00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:33,940
You know, we usually don't have people

855
00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:36,940
who are outside spraying perfume into the halls.

856
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:37,940
And you know what else is funny, though?

857
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:38,940
I don't have roses.

858
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:40,940
I have no rose bush out there.

859
00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:41,940
Well, that's what we look for.

860
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:42,940
I have nothing.

861
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:43,940
You do have roses in the front, in the very front,

862
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:45,940
but those are too far away from everything.

863
00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:47,940
And the floors across the street.

864
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:49,940
I hope we get hundreds of them.

865
00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:50,940
He's over there.

866
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:51,940
There's a phenomenon called matrixing,

867
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:52,940
and it happens with different senses.

868
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:54,940
It's when your mind is trying to make sense

869
00:35:54,940 --> 00:35:56,940
of kind of just jumble.

870
00:35:56,940 --> 00:35:59,940
So there can be two smells, two totally different smells,

871
00:35:59,940 --> 00:36:01,940
that when they combine, create a new smell,

872
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:03,940
and it's neither of those things.

873
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:04,940
Like, you may smell a campfire

874
00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:07,940
when there's absolutely no campfire around.

875
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:10,940
So that could play a factor.

876
00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:13,940
That's something that could be taken into consideration.

877
00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:17,940
Now, this is some of the footage we got in there.

878
00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:19,940
This was the closest camera to our unit,

879
00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:21,940
and it was freaking out the whole time.

880
00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:23,940
You see this little thing going across.

881
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:25,940
This is the first time we've ever experienced that.

882
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:28,940
We changed receivers, we changed transmitters,

883
00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:29,940
we changed the camera itself.

884
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:31,940
We got this problem every time.

885
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,940
Could be the energy that's in here.

886
00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:35,940
The main thing is if you're going to a place

887
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:36,940
to try to prove a haunting,

888
00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:37,940
then any bit of evidence you have,

889
00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:39,940
you're going to assume is proof of a haunting.

890
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:41,940
If you're going there to try to disprove a haunting,

891
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:44,940
and you're willing to dissect every bit of your information,

892
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:46,940
and you're still left with things,

893
00:36:46,940 --> 00:36:48,940
well, then you're left with things that you can't disprove.

894
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:50,940
It's rock solid.

895
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:54,940
We have a lot of evidence as far as experiences.

896
00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:56,940
We have very little proof of those experiences.

897
00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:58,940
Not saying I don't believe those people,

898
00:36:58,940 --> 00:37:00,940
but when it comes to showing someone else,

899
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:02,940
telling someone else that it's haunted,

900
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:04,940
you've got to give proof just like in a courtroom.

901
00:37:04,940 --> 00:37:06,940
But we did the best with what we could here.

902
00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:07,940
Now, we appreciate it, sir.

903
00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:09,940
Hopefully you're happy with the investigation.

904
00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:12,940
You guys are great. You're welcome here at Guinea and always.

905
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:13,940
Thanks.

906
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:17,940
TAB's conclusion of what they found personally disappointed me a little.

907
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:21,940
Being a person who's experienced some of the things in our restaurant,

908
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:25,940
I was unhappy that maybe they couldn't experience the same thing with me,

909
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:27,940
but that's okay. I understand that.

910
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:32,940
So we got all hooked up to talk to Frank tomorrow?

911
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:34,940
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.

912
00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:37,940
You know what? I honestly think it'd be better just me sitting down with him.

913
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:40,940
Or we have a little closer of a bond than you and him.

914
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:43,940
You know, I definitely see a skeptic who just became a believer.

915
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:58,940
Hey, buddy. Appreciate you coming back to sit down with us. Good, man.

916
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:03,940
But I did want to talk to you about what had gone on at the armory that night

917
00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:06,940
and get your impressions on everything.

918
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:09,940
But if you can just explain to me exactly what happened with you.

919
00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:17,940
We were just working up on the catwalk and we were catching cold spots all over the place.

920
00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:24,940
2.9, 3.0, right here. 3.1, 3.3, 3.5, 3.4. This is the strongest.

921
00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:28,940
And all of a sudden I just got this chill. This cold spot just hit me.

922
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:33,940
Frank, are you okay? What did you do?

923
00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:34,940
What happened?

924
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:39,940
This wave of air or energy or I don't know what it was came just right up

925
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:43,940
and right under my chin just knocked me under the chin, threw my head back.

926
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:48,940
And the next thing I knew I was getting just pulled right down onto the floor.

927
00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:49,940
What happened?

928
00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:51,940
Something just went right through you.

929
00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:52,940
What?

930
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:57,940
And the one thing that I felt when I got hit was like this realization.

931
00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:03,940
Every bad thing that could possibly happen, it just came into my head at that one moment.

932
00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:12,940
And I think that scared me more than getting hit by something that I didn't see.

933
00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:18,940
Now during that did you feel like you were being attacked or something was trying to make contact with you?

934
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:23,940
I felt like I was getting singled out. We all were feeling the cold spots.

935
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:29,940
Right here. Oh my God, right here. It was actually chilly. I got goosebumps.

936
00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:32,940
I mean I got hit.

937
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:37,940
So I mean, of course I felt like I was being attacked.

938
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:41,940
I do have some videos I'd like to show you and get your impression on.

939
00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:43,940
Alright? You okay with this?

940
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:44,940
Yeah.

941
00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:48,940
You can see here you are. Here's your audio equipment, your legs.

942
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:52,940
It's you right here.

943
00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:56,940
You alright man?

944
00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:58,940
Yeah, it's just a little freaky.

945
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:04,940
I want you to focus more on the equipment bag right now Frank. Right here.

946
00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:05,940
Yeah.

947
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:06,940
Keep an eye on it.

948
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:12,940
Holy s***, that just jumped up.

949
00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:14,940
That would be correct Frank.

950
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:19,940
What hit you in the face was your equipment bag. What made it lift up?

951
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:21,940
Wasn't you.

952
00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:25,940
Your bag actually moves before you move Frank.

953
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:26,940
Then watch.

954
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,940
The bag just went up. Now you're going down.

955
00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:32,940
And your bag's actually coming back down.

956
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:35,940
Yeah, it'll feel too comfortable seeing that.

957
00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:39,940
It makes me feel a little uneasy.

958
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:43,940
But I think you need to see it. I think you need to understand what happened that day.

959
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:47,940
So you're not sitting there wondering for the rest of your life what did truly happen.

960
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:53,940
Well, I mean honestly I don't feel that my audio gear hit me under the chin.

961
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:56,940
I probably would have had a mark or something.

962
00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:00,940
You're going to see the thermal camera right there Frank.

963
00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:03,940
You're all in flame because you were struck.

964
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,940
That's why the skin's a different color because it's hot.

965
00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:09,940
So that represents heat?

966
00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:14,940
So you're hotter in that area. You can pretty much see the contusion area.

967
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:20,940
Now with seeing everything you've seen here, how do you feel seriously?

968
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:24,940
I feel a lot better than I'm here. I'm not in there anymore.

969
00:41:25,940 --> 00:41:33,940
It's a little unnerving. It's almost giving me pretty irrefutable proof that something did happen to me.

970
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:38,940
Is there any other explanation that you guys came up with?

971
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:43,940
I wish there was Frank. I went up there. I looked at the floor exactly where you're standing,

972
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:48,940
trying to see if any boards were offset that you could have tripped on.

973
00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:53,940
We did everything we could. I do appreciate you coming and sitting down and watching that man.

974
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,940
Well you and I appreciate you showing me this stuff because I've never seen this footage.

975
00:41:57,940 --> 00:42:00,940
Well, we're all a big family and we're working together.

976
00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:03,940
Thanks for looking after me. I appreciate it.

977
00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:06,940
Anytime man. Thanks a lot man. Thanks for coming in.

978
00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:20,940
Next time on Ghost Hunters, Jason and Grant investigate an 18th century inn.

979
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:23,940
It was built in 1737. Where voices are heard.

980
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:29,940
People had said I couldn't sleep last night because there was a party in the ballroom and there was no party in the ballroom.

981
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:32,940
And objects mysteriously move.

982
00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:34,940
Lots of things falling off the shelves.

983
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:38,940
Thus the ghost of a murdered bride haunt these halls.

984
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:43,940
And the Ghost Hunters delve into the world of the possessed to exercise a woman's demons.

985
00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:46,940
In the name of Jesus Christ, I cast you out.

986
00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:47,940
I hate you.

987
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:06,940
I hate you.

988
00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:36,940
you